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Owning Manhattan’s Tricia Lee Riley on Setting Boundaries for Success

August 29, 2024 Kat Torre and Candice Carcioppolo Episode 202

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Today we are resharing one of our most popular episodes with Owning Manhattan's Tricia Lee Riley!

In this episode, Tricia shares her unapologetic approach to success and well-being, emphasizing the importance of wellness and setting boundaries. She discusses the need to prioritize yourself and take care of mental health in order to perform at your best. We also discuss how important it is to not shrinking yourself to please others and being confident in the value you brings to any situation.

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Hey, clever crew, it's Candice here. And today we're excited to revisit one of our most popular episodes featuring the unstoppable Tricia Lee Riley. Since we last spoke, Tricia has skyrocketed to new heights, becoming the star of Netflix's hit show, Owning Manhattan, which was just renewed for a second season. So be on the lookout for that. In this episode, Tricia shares her unapologetic approach to success and well -being, lessons that are even more relevant today as she continues to inspire and lead by example.

So whether you're hearing this conversation for the first time or you're catching up, get ready to be inspired by Trisha's incredible journey. Hi, I'm Kat, marketer turned brand storyteller. And I'm Candice, educator turned entrepreneur. And you're listening to Not Nice, Clever. As CEOs and leaders, it's your job to always have the answers. But sometimes you need a little help, leverage, if you will. We get it. This is the place for you. So wherever you're listening, 530 AM Club at the gym,

on your way to your next meeting or putting out today's fire, let's get into it. We are so excited to introduce you to Trisha Lee Riley on Not Nice Clever Today. She is based in New York and a kick ass real estate broker, went from owning multiple small businesses throughout Brooklyn to selling multimillion dollar real estate. She is founder of the Girl Gang Network and on today's podcast, she is going to give you her hot take on humility. So let's dive in.

All well, thank you so much, Trisha, for hopping on with us here today. We're really excited for the Clever Crew to get to know more all about you and not just maybe in the typical lens of knowing you as a real estate agent, but really so much more than that. And so we always love kicking off these guest episodes by asking our guests, what is one thing?

That might be surprising that's just on your mind, on your heart that you really can't get enough of right now. You can't shut up about it. What's on your mind at the moment? What's on my mind at the moment? I think the biggest theme in my life right now is wellness overall, just wellness. I think that's something I can't shut up about right now, which is odd, obviously, as a businesswoman and real estate person. Right. Right.

Yeah, because you've owned multiple businesses. You went from salons to selling multimillion dollar real estate. we were just talking about before we hopped on here, you're like, yeah, I had some time this week. And most people would have taken a vacation, but I used it to get things done that just made me feel good. So for you, what would you say wellness looks like for you as a busy businesswoman who has multiple businesses? I think it's just a matter of, and I hate, like everyone uses this term balance, but.

For me, balance is so key because I'm that girl that like really, I have a lifestyle belief in my head and like that's what I'm working towards, right? So it's like, it's not any one thing. It's just I am motivated every day to kind of get up and work towards the life that I want. And that is inclusive of a very successful business, but it's not a very successful business. It's so many other things. And so,

I think wellness is important to me because it starts with me and everything I do. It's like I'm the engine of everything and I know that. So understanding that, you know, after multiple careers that I'm the common denominator, right? So when things are all over the place and scattered, it comes back to me. When things are difficult and just nothing can break through and nothing's happened. Again, it all comes back to me. So I think that

at some point along the way I just realized like, I'm the most important person here. Like I'm the most important thing here. Say it again. And so wellness. We love that. Yeah, no it is. It's like I am, I'm number one. Like I'm number one. And I am very committed to that. I think that when people interact with me, they're just like, how do you do that? I mean, I don't know how you do it. I just know that I'm there. And I know that it took me a very long time to be there. So the boundaries I set, the rules I set, when I say yes, when I say no.

how I do things, if I do things, when I care, how much I care, whether or not I care, it really comes back to me and how I feel about things and my wellness. And my wellness is so important. It's my mental health, it's my rest, it's my ability to restore myself so that that next day I'm better than I was the last day. That I get enough downtime to come back and put in a good day or put in a good fight. I'm just a good pitcher of everything, know? Because to me, like,

our success is defined by many things. I'm very clear on what my success is defined by. So it's my wellness that allows me to give it my all really, you know, and do it in a way that I'm proud of more importantly. Yeah. Yeah. Cause when I, I've had success in a manic state and it's just not as fun. It's just not as fun, you know, when you're stretched too thin. Yeah. And you're not good to yourself and you're not.

You're just not good in general, you're not, know, but you're, you're checking these things off and you're doing these things, but you're not enjoying any of it. And I know what that is. I've been there for so long that it's, I know how to really clearly fight against getting back in that space and really managing myself, my time and just my worth in a better way, honestly. I think a lot of our listeners, Trisha, are maybe in that space where you were. They're seeing success, but they're feeling like,

taking a break or taking a step back or putting, prioritizing themselves or their wellness is going to make everything crumble immediately. Can you speak to that a little bit? Like how did you come out of that space or what were some of the tools that you used or I don't know what happened? Was there something specific that happened or was it just gradual?

I think I was always aware that I was just like a real gunner. Like I'm just like, let's get it done, let's get it done. Like I've always been like, I don't need anybody to motivate me. I don't need anybody to judge how I do anything. And I definitely don't need anybody to, I just don't need that. I don't need any outside sources. Like I am the person that is extremely critical of myself. I'm the person that is very motivational. I'm the person that I drive it all. Like I am the conductor and I am the engine. And that's just my.

personality, you know, and I've always been that person, but I definitely felt like with my first business and my second business that I get to a point where, and the reason why I say I'm the common denominator is because it's like, I get to that same point in everything that I do where I become overwhelmed, I become a control freak and I'm angry about it. But again, it's me, the starting point that becomes overwhelmed, becomes a control freak, and then I get angry. And

I did that with my first business and my dream really became a nightmare for me. I just was like, mean, like little or last time I was laughing with a friend and she's like, cause you know, Trisha will quit. was like, girl, I'll quit my own dream. So, you know, I'll quit anything you got going on. Like I just will quit. So I will, I'll quit, like quit a job. I'll quit my own business. Are you kidding me? Like I will quit anything, a race, anything that doesn't serve me.

And I just realized that I get to that point because of some of the habits that I have. And the habits I have is that I am not a good boss to myself. By default, I am not. So what I do is I really work to, and it's ridiculous, but I have to put a lot of energy into treating myself good and to being good to myself as a boss, as the head of my company, as the face of my company, as the main engine to everything that I do.

It just shows up in different ways. I'm very gentle with myself in certain ways. Now I make time for rest. I prioritize sleep. Like I book sleep into my calendar the way I booked this into my calendar, you know, and I don't skimp on the parts of things that serve me anymore. And then when you start to get into those small little habits and it can just be something as small as for me, it was something small like taking a proper lunch and going to lunch and sitting down and turning off the phone and giving my brain and my mind and my spirit an hour.

to just take a break, because I wasn't doing seven, eight hour days. I was doing 13, 14 hour days, and I would just go and I would eat in my lap if I had to and I didn't care. And what the visual is on that is immense success, but the reality of it is like something that's very uncomfortable. So I started small with little things like that, and then I did silly things like wellness and spa stuff, and little things like that. And I call those things silly because those things don't make you feel better. They're great, but they don't make you feel better.

But it's the saying no to certain things. It's managing my schedule better. It's kind of always going back to would I consider myself a good boss to myself? And that's kind of where I have to go every time and make sure I'm not abusing myself as my own boss. And I, by default, will do that. And so now it's like those are the parameters that I have to stick between. Like, is this good? Like, when's the last time you had a day off? Are you carving out time?

Are you, you know, and so at the other end of that on people interacting with me, it's like, she doesn't take calls on Saturdays or she's MIA after 8 p whatever it looks like. But this backstory of that is that like those healthy habits are in place to make sure that I'm good. And when I do those things, I'm so good. I'm so much better. My work is better and my relationships, everything's better. Like my mind is better. My thoughts, my attitude, my attitude and attitude is key. Like so much is better.

I am a little crazy about those boundaries now just because it's always a work in practice for me. It's not who I naturally am. I love that. Yeah. One thing that Kat and I talk to our clever crew about all the time is setting healthy boundaries. Yeah, yeah. And it's like everyone says that, but a lot of those boundaries are like, that's you. It has nothing to do with anybody else. Like, I don't have a lot of boundaries with people because I have such great boundaries with myself. I know what I can want to, don't want to do.

And I know when it's too much and I respect it and I honor it and I also just, take a lot of time from myself. I take a lot of time from myself and I think I need a lot of that time in a way that maybe another person wouldn't, but I need it. Yep. When you're setting boundaries with people, with clients, with colleagues, and you're like, I don't take calls on Saturday. Can you share what that message sounds like specifically because

Kat and I talk about this regularly, like boundaries are key. I don't take meetings on Mondays. People might not like that. But that's something that's super important and it's crucial to our success. What is the messaging specifically for our audience so they could replicate the messaging? How do you have that conversation? Because I know already, and someone in the audience is saying.

OK, like easy for her to say that or she's probably losing clients because that's like the fear in people's minds, right? How do you speak to that or what is your mindset there? I probably am. Yeah. Yeah, I probably am. I probably am. You're so unapologetic, Trisha. I admire you so much for this.

No, I would absolutely have to lose clients, but like not every client is my client, right? Like it's your vibe and then your tribe. I'm only focused on my tribe. Like I could care less about the nine people that didn't choose me. The one that did is going to get serviced. She's going to get over -serviced, right? And that will lead to 10 other clients. So that's where I am with it. Specifically what I do with my clients is you, yeah, it's true. And you onboard, like you onboard. Like if I'm a client for you, you guys are bringing me on as a client. You're onboarding me. And so when I am onboarding a client,

Although it be real estate and there may be a mindset that you're lucky to get a client. I don't feel like I'm lucky to get a client. I feel like we're both lucky. I do because I feel like you've got a partner in this fight that's going to fight just as hard as you. You're going to have to pull me back sometimes. I might fight a little harder than you. I'm a come up for you. You're come up for me. Like I am happy to have a client, but a client should absolutely be happy to have me. It's just the truth. And I could sit, I could sit here next to my clients and say the same thing.

Confidently, 120%. We believe it, we hear it. We're here for it. But I know I also do the work. Yeah, I do the work. You're not going to get me on the work. On the work, I'm going to shut you down every time, period. love it. And so I am. It is what it is. And there's no argument about it, I think. I'm kind of obsessed with this topic right now. It's so important. It's so important because we do everything out of guilt. And it's like, why? If I'm onboarding you, I'm like, can I share my schedule with you?

What are your expectations about reaching out to me? So when I start with you as a client, we're going to have a small question, small question to answer section where I'm just like, how many times do you want us to check in? And when would you like that to happen? Three times a week, two times a week? I have clients that want to hear from me every other day. No problem. Can I share my schedule with you? Is the next statement. And I share my schedule. And I have a very routine schedule. I don't take anything after like 1 o 'clock on Fridays. I'm completely available Sunday.

through Thursday, you know? And then Friday, it's kind of like a soft, gentle 10 to one situation. And Saturday, she's MIA. You're not gonna find her. You're not gonna find, like my own partner's not gonna find me. You should see me. I get up on Saturday morning. I'm in my car at eight o 'clock, facial, know, I don't know, central park walk, whatever it is, it's mine, it's mine alone, and I'm out. It's like two deuces, because I'm gone.

When I get back, you know, it's like, it was just my day. And sometimes it's just corny, like having fun in New York, you know, which, which is respite for me. That's relaxing. Like if I drive up to 57th street and run around central park and do a city day and I don't know, drink $8 coffee in the park, whatever my mood is, whatever it is that day, like I'm working for that shit. You know what I mean? Like I'm working towards it. I worked this hard for that day or for that time. I'm going to be just as protective as it of that.

as I am when I'm in work mode and I'm grinding for people. But I start with that and I can also assess before I ever have that conversation if that client is going to challenge that. And if they challenge it, they'll never hear from me. They just won't. They won't. I can show you text messages in my phone where it's like just from the tone of the text message, I knew we wouldn't work successfully together because the dynamic is off, you know? Next, move on.

I'll fail fast too. that's a fail. Let's move on. I won't bother with it. There's more than enough business out there. There's more. mean, I literally, my screensaver on my phone, if you see it now, it's the city of New York. It's the city of New York because goddamn, there's a lot of real estate out there. I'm not getting stuck on anything. There it is. Let's go. What's next? Let's go. my gosh. I love it. You know? And you know what? I think people understand that when you have that level of structure, then you also perform with that level of structure.

So I don't go missing with my clients. I don't send you nonsense like I'm on vacation so my internet is crazy. I'm either on vacation or I'm working. There's like, you know what I mean? Like, well, like no, like I am either working or I'm not working. If I'm on vacation, my clients have gotten a notice about the fact that I'm on vacation and they have the contingency plan that's in place when I'm gone.

Am I completely checked out? Absolutely not. I wake up in the morning, look at my emails, peruse quickly, make sure there's no fires, check in with my assistant and then I'm gone again. You know, and that's a few times a week. Most clients don't even feel it because it's scheduled into the times that are lower in the business calendar too. But the structure is the structure. And so you can't love the structure and love what comes of it, but not respect it. I start with respecting the structure.

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And I also think that as a professional, I am available so many hours of the week that I'm never gonna apologize for the hours I'm not available. know, like I'm available five and a half days a week. Five and a half days is a lot of days. Kat's always talking about how desperate energy doesn't sell. Desperate doesn't sell. Kat, what is your phrase? That desperate doesn't sell. It doesn't sell in business. It doesn't sell on Tinder. It doesn't sell on Instagram.

It sells nowhere ever. It don't sell on none of that. Nope. are too many clearance stickers on here. We don't want it. It's clearly not a value. Look how many people have passed this up. No, say it. I love that. I'm going to start saying that. It's true. It's true. You know, and I have a client this week that, you know, I shouldn't say a client, just a gentleman that reached out and the tone was off. I didn't like it. It felt very like.

I call it dangling a carrot when sometimes people approach me and they're like, you know, I might have, don't do that. I'll snatch it. Don't do that. Don't do that. Like I'm a, I'm a professional. Yeah. Do you want to work with me or not? Like there's no dangling of a carrot. so when someone does that, it's a complete turnoff for me because I feel like I have a value add and I feel like if you need a service, let's talk about what the value add is and whether or not that's a good fit for what it is you're trying to do. Nine times out of 10, I think these are individuals that believe that I'm the best person for the job.

but they feel that there's a level of hierarchy there or like, you know, I'm the client, so whatever that is and no, like, let's just figure out what the goals are. Let's just team up and let's just get it done. Let me guide you and let me show you how to do what it is that you wanna do to the best of my ability and to really bring you success. Like I'm that committed, but it can't start off in like a tone where I feel like we wouldn't work well together. When it does, I absolutely shut down. You know, I like, I don't have anyone for you. can send you a referral, but no thanks.

And he's like, we didn't even have a call. I'm like, dude, I don't need a call to realize that this ain't it. You know? And I don't lose any sleep over it. I just don't because it's, I can't, I don't lose any sleep over it, you know? And I other clients are like, let me try to refer and get a little paid on, nope, mm -mm. Like I just, I don't feel the desperation. I definitely am not in destitute. Like I feel that everything is, and you know, that word abundant is overused, I think sometimes, but.

My career in real estate is almost eight years old. I have never struggled for business. Thank goodness. You know, and I think it's because I'm focused on me and I'm focused on the work. Everything else plays a second fiddle to everything, you know? And I think that clients understand that and they understand that because the results have shown that. So it's like, there's no need for that dance. Like, what is it that you need? Let me see if I want to do it with you. Let me see if I can do it with you. Honestly, when I know I can't, I always say I can't and I refer somebody that's a better fit.

Because if you have success with them, that's still success you had through me. So I think about those things. I'm very thoughtful and I'm very honest, but I'm also very protective of what it is that I have to offer. And I think so highly of what it is I do and how I do it that, know, Jeff, my partner always says, you're such an egomaniac. And I always say, yeah, I know. Because it's like, you know.

This industry beats you down. If you don't feel great about yourself and you don't build yourself up every day to come out here do what you need to do, God bless you. I don't know how you're out here doing it. I do think that sometimes having a little ego and understanding, this is who I am, this is what I do. When I walk in the room, this is what you get. I don't know. It works for me. I'm not gonna say it works for everybody else, but it works for me. I'm gonna always stick to that because...

Every time I have ever failed miserably, it's when my confidence was shattered. I've never ever done any great thing while I had poor confidence. And when I'm the most confident is when I think I produced the best, you know? And so I'm very cognizant of building my confidence. And like, if you are around me, you watch me work, you'll hear me say this all the time. I'm sorry, I just need to understand that better. I'm sorry, I need to understand that. Yeah, no, but Trisha, like Trisha, Trisha Lee needs to know.

why that is. And so I may have more questions. may have, because I know that my confidence comes from my understanding and my knowledge. And I'm like, well, I want to be able to do this confidently, so I got to get the key pieces I need in order to get that done. So I am going to review things more, ask more questions, challenge things a little bit more. But I want to get to a point where I feel good about it. And I know that I can put this in front of Kat, Candice, and be like, hey, girls, this is what you need, and this is why. And I'm effectively doing my job.

because I have gotten myself to a place where I feel good about it. And I have to feel good about my work, I have to feel good about me, I have to feel good about my contribution to the room, to the event, to this podcast, to whatever it is. So I don't think that that hurts in any way. And if it hurts me, I'm okay with it. Like I'm okay with it because it makes me feel good. the results are there. About what it is I'm a part of. A lot of the clients that Kat and I work with are afraid of coming off as

braggadocious, they want to be humble. And that's a conversation that we spend a lot of time talking about, because maybe there's a fine line between being humble but also demonstrating your expertise and understanding your authority in the situation. Does that ever come up in conversations with your team members or with people that you work with? Like the idea of maybe you should be more humble?

It comes up all the time. I'll you what one of my big sisters slash mentors told me. And she told me this last summer. was coming visiting from LA cause she's like East coast, West coast. And God knows like every Thursday she pops up and like, I'm in New York. I'm in LA. I'm in New York. She's that fabulous friend. And I ran into her in the park and she pulls me aside and she's like, listen, gotta talk to you about something. And

She's like, I'm not seeing you in your stuff anymore. And I was like, what do you mean? And she's like, I'm not seeing you in your stuff. Like, you usually talk your shit. I need you to talk your shit again. And I was like, what are you talking about? And it's so funny because what she'll never know is at the time I was taking on a project that had me feeling very like ill -prepared. And I'm not confident because I don't know what I'm doing. And I was like, I know. And I was like, but Tracy, like, you know, I just feel like I'm always getting this feedback that I need to be more humble. And so.

It's like, I'm not being more humble, but I just want to pretend like I am just so people can shut up about it. And she's like, do you know what humble means? And I'm like, well, and she's like, no, look it up. So I look it up and I look up humble and it says something, I'll look it up now. Having or showing modest or very low estimate of one's own importance. So any way you look up humble, it's always going to be tied to a demonstration of how you don't want to misinform people.

that you think you're more important than you are. So I can't get behind the humble bullshit. No. I can't. So no, I do think that people struggle with that. I do know from that day forward, I do know from that day forward, I was like, yeah, no, no Like I was on the brakes and I don't need to be on the brakes. I get further when I have my foot on the gas. I love that.

Period. So that is all I'll say about humility. I am well aware of how important I am. And I don't care if anyone else understands how important I am. I have great goddamn ideas. I matter. I walk into a room and I contribute in any which way. It could be something that I have no nothing about. I'll still be like, why don't you put mustard in it? Like, that's me. So no, I am very clear on how important I am. I'm very important and clear on my contributions and

I am concerned that anybody would want to humble me, but I'm not going to be the one to do it. No, no. That's my answer to that question. And I think that should be the answer everyone gives to that question. Such needed medicine for so many of our clever crew, just everybody in general. I I love that you've like almost deprogrammed that the niceness, the humble, the like, you know, don't make it about you or, you know, it's all about the client or the client's always right. And it's like,

The client can be right, but if we're useless to ourselves, if you're useless to you, like you are useless to everybody, including your partner, Jeff, including your team, including your clients. Like we need to that script and stop like trying to people please ourselves to death. Cause that doesn't help anybody. No one at all. Yeah. No, I'm here. I make it better. I make it better. Yeah, absolutely. And it's like, I'm here. I make it better. And like,

I think my own guiding light in my life is about making contributions. I feel a responsibility to contribute to anything I do. We could be planning a road trip. I'm the one with the spreadsheet. I'm like, hey, let's, according to my account, you know, I'm that girl. I'm always trying to contribute to things. You are a spreadsheet girl. I can see that. I am.

spreadsheet. So I believe in my contributions to the things that I care about. I believe in my contributions to my work. I believe in my contributions to anything that I'm a part of. So no, I'm not going to shrink that. I feel that I would want a client to interact with me and be like, damn, I'm in good hands. Like I'm in good hands now. And so I know when I leave a client with that feeling at the beginning, the middle, and the end, and I don't care how anyone else takes it, you know, because

Every client I work with becomes a brand ambassador for my business. And that is how my business grows. I am not out here knocking on doors. I'm not out here at 20 networking events a week. I'm not interested in it. I don't have the time. Like I am doing the work and the work is the work is the work. And that is always going to be proven. Right. So that's the most effective I can be with my efforts in my business is to just do great work.

and to lead with that. That's gonna be my way. Maybe it's because of my personality that's a better way. Maybe it's because I truly believe it's a better way. But I'm not about to shrink back myself to try to convince you that I'm the best person. I'm not gonna do that. It's like anything. feel like you have access to it. Enjoy the ride. Enjoy the ride. I just believe it. That's where I'm at.

Yep. I'm so excited about this episode because Kat and I are just going to send this episode to any of our clients who bring up all of these topics and be like, look, you don't have to just hear it from me. Listen to this episode on Wepeat in your car, on your walk with your dog, like all the time when you're getting your nails done. Listen to this episode because this is truly what it's about. And you have to believe that you're worth it. You have to believe that your skills and your

experience are worth the wait even, right? Like why would you work with anyone else when you just have to wait 24 hours to talk to me on Monday? Yes. You know? That's it. Or 12, right. And also I think it's so important and it doesn't always come naturally. You you don't always feel that way. So it's important to understand and like watch for those flags when you don't feel that way. I shared with my partner the other day a habit I've had for so long.

Sometimes I share things with him and I'm like, it's just too much, but you know, I was listening to an old podcast that I was on and he's like, what are you doing? And I was like, I'm getting ready to do a podcast. I'm listening to myself. And he's like, why do you, why do you do that? And I was like, well, I gotta remind myself of, know, like of my greatness, I guess. And he starts laughing. He's like, so you listen to yourself. And I was like, no, I gotta get in the head space. Like I gotta get it, gotta get it together. You know, but I do like, have to, I have to, I have to sometimes remind myself I'm not a perfect person, but I'm clear. And I'm like,

aware and I'm self reflective. So I'm like, well, you know what? Let me make sure that I'm in the best head space for this. And so like, is that by listening to something I've done in the past? Hell yeah, girl, remind yourself of how amazing you are. You know, or sometimes it's listening to another something that, know, or maybe it's a motivational. Sometimes it's a video. Who cares what it is, but you do need to kind of like lock in sometimes. And when I need to lock in, like I'll, I may go back and listen to this.

Because attitude is everything. Attitude is everything. And I got to get in the right head space to walk into the room and do the things that it is that I'm trying to do. And who cares if I cheat? If I'm not feeling it today, let me cheat. And so sometimes I'll have to, you know, as corny as it is, I can't believe I'm even saying this on a podcast. That's insane. We say everything on here. I listen to myself to remind myself. Yeah. Yeah. But it works.

Y 'all should try it. I'm telling you, it I love it. I kind of do that. saw someone edited some reels of me on stage and I was like, damn, I would listen to that girl. I was like, okay. But when I'm in it, maybe don't notice it, right? Save it. Save it in your favorites. There we go. Yes. Okay. So you answered so many of our questions that we didn't even have to ask them, right? We're just here soaking up the goodness. I'm just like, thank you.

I think we asked one question out of the five that we had planned and we touched on everything. hilarious. So what I do want to ask you, though, before we get into the rapid fire is what's one thing that your younger self dreamed of that is now just part of your current reality, daily life that you just have, but like something that you really longed for or like maybe were envious of other people for having it. And now this is just you.

one thing. So many things. I know so many things, but we just we like to hear it all. We want to we want to share the journey. Yeah, there's so many things. I think so when I close my my real. I'm sorry, my beauty business and I went into real estate. This is so corny. But like the first day where it like snowed and like it was like everybody stay inside unless you have to be somewhere in New York.

And I had like, I had a new life and I had a new business was the very first day. And I remember being like, I don't have to do shit today. And I literally just took the covers over my head and just went back to sleep. And I was so excited to like, just stay home because my last 10 years had been like, my God, if it's snowing and no one can go anywhere, then they're stuck in their houses. They're stuck in their neighborhoods. And my businesses were.

Like women around 12 o 'clock would be like, I'm out. I can't sit in this house anymore. And so like snow days and really horrible weather days were phenomenal business days. And so you had to like swim to work if you ran a salon. And I ran two salons. And so bad weather days are triggering for me till this day. Because it's like, you see this glamorous salon owner, you don't understand she's been shoveling the sidewalk all

So I am, I was most excited about that, but truthfully, like daily, weekly, regularly in my life, I think the best part of the success I have now, and it's corny as hell, but like, I think all of us are trying to repair and fix our inner child. I love random acts of kindness. That is the best part of the resources that I now have and where I'm at right now in my journey.

is I can just randomly fix things and resolve things. And money don't buy happiness, but it damn sure gives you freedom. And I have the freedom to randomly act kindly towards people. And it's the funnest little secret that I have. It's the best shit. I end up in places where, like last week a woman's debit card wasn't working and she was paying for dinner for her and her daughter. And it's like.

put that on my ship. I'm happy. Yeah, I'm just like best swipe of the week, you know? Or like I've had that happen to the grocery store and you know, just, like being able to just fix things for somebody that I don't even know. Like that is, that's the best part of having resources for me. I mean, all the other stuff is like, whatever, like it's great, but then it's not even important enough to like, it doesn't come to mind right now, honestly. So it can't be all that great, but that stuff I like.

Or like if my mom is talking about something and it's just like, can just like make it happen. You know, like that's dope. Like that's, God knows how she made things happen for me when I was younger. So I think that's the best part is just being able to randomly do shit that's really good.

Like really, really good. Right. And now you can pay it forward. Yeah. And I say that, I always say that. You know, I always say that to someone. I'm like, hey, you know, this lady the other day right in the corner of my grocery store, I think it was just her car just was jacked up. And I've definitely been in that situation. And she's like, what can I do? And I said, girl, pay it forward. And just gave her a hug, you know? And it was like, boom, you know? She's like, I can't believe you just paid for my groceries. I'm like, we'll do it for someone one day. You'll be able to, and I want you to do it for some, remember today, you know, because it's like...

Those little blessings and those little angels have been through my entire life. I have had people save my ass. And that's the best part for me of my current situation by far is being able to just slide in and fix things that have nothing to do with me. Yeah, that's the best part. I love that so much. One of my favorite things is being able to say, I got this. I got this. No sweat on anyone, right? Like I got this. Yeah. Dinner, take my friends somewhere. I got this.

Like that makes me feel so good, because I remember a time when like I could never get them, you know? And so like I feel, I get so much joy from being able to say that. Yeah, yeah. And like nothing else comes to mind when I'm asked that question. I would definitely say it's that. I love that so much. Okay, Kat, do you want to do rapid fire? Yes. Okay, Trisha, this is probably our favorite part of having amazing guests like you on.

It's going to be rapid fire questions. We've got about five or six of them, just no wrong answers. First thing that comes to mind. Are you ready? God. Yes. You're good. OK. What was one of your childhood nicknames? Trish the Dish. OK. Love it. All right. What is your go -to lazy dinner when you've just had a day? What's the go -to? they're so bad. I don't want to influence people to be bad.

My go -to lazy dinner is probably... It's kind of gross though, but it's my favorite. I don't care. That's what we want. Tell It's probably... Jeff is so disgusted by it, I can't even eat it around him. But it's Chef Boyardee Ravioli. my gosh. No, will say I'm... We haven't heard that one yet.

But wait, gets where it's Chef Boyardee ravioli. And then I eat it with Ritz crackers and cream cheese. OK. She just uses it up. All right. A full culinary experience. takes two minutes. it's it's you know, I feel like it's my it's my best dish when I'm really on the go. All right. She does.

I love it. love it. Yes. Chef Boyardee ravioli. Everyone's like, that's not even me. I'm like, I don't care. Whatever the best dish for Trish the dish, is the vibe. Right. All right. What is the best non -curse word, one word insult? So for example, Candice's abuelita, she loves calling people like they're a crumb.

Like you crumb, you know? Like that's her insult. I love using the word right. It's like, you make me feel so small when you call me a crumb. I love the word moron. What is your like best non curse word, one word insult? God, there's so many. I'm not proud of it, but there's so many. I would say for the most part, always resort back to clown. I'm like this clown.

Like this clown, you know, like probably clown. But I will use imbecile very often too. Like I love an imbecile. I'd like this imbecile. And then I say it with accents. I say imbecile with different accents. I love it. That just makes it so much better. All right. All right. Last two. So our clever crew knows Candice has an airport obsession. It even says it in her Instagram browse. She's probably at the airport right now as she's recording with us. Our question for you is, do you arrive?

two hours early to the airport or two minutes early? What's your vibe? Two minutes. See? Two minutes. I'm surprised. We're busy. We don't have time to just be sitting around like I'm doing something and I'm just walking straight onto that plane. Plus I travel so much I can time it really well. Like I'm really good at time. Yeah. Like when you travel a lot, kind of, you know, my timing is really good. So now, and I don't need to be anywhere before it's time. So.

You know, my partner on the other hand is there the day before the flight leaves. So when I travel with him, I literally have to my gosh, that's mine. Yes. So when I travel with him, I have to like go to the airport and have dinner and go shopping. And like, it has to be a whole day excursion before a flight arrives. Whole production. A whole production. I'm like, it is ridiculous. I don't know what we're doing here. We're not getting paid to be here. Why are we here? But when I'm by myself and when I'm with my girls, it's like I'm

I'm the last person to walk on the plane intentionally. For sure. On purpose. I love it. Okay. Last rapid fire. I candidly, I love you've spilled some secrets with us. I'll spill a secret with you. I'm a huge Marvel comic book fan. And so last question for rapid fire. We love to ask is if you were a superhero, I mean, you already are a superhero. Let's be very clear to everybody listening, but.

If you were a superhero, what would be your superpower of choice? What's Trish the Dish's superpower? I've thought about this at length, first off. Very prepared for this question. It would absolutely be the ability to disappear and appear wherever I want all the time. Teleportation, we love that for you.

So I could just like vanish and like show up in Madrid. And like that night just, it's not wrinkling of the nose because I've tried it and I can't wrinkle my nose, but it's gotta be like something where I close my eyes and I just like, it can be somewhere else. But I've thought about that. That is the one superpower that I would specifically want is the ability to disappear and show up in different places whenever I want. Yeah.

Which is kind of my guiding light for my life and all my goals, if you think about it. Being able to have freedom to do whatever the hell I want. It's very on brand for you. That's super power. We approve. It really is. It really is. Yeah, I was prepared. It was almost like that was a cheat question because I walked through life prepared. Well, thank you so much for joining us today, Tricia. It was amazing. thank you. Thank you guys. This is awesome. This is a great, great podcast.

Glad we could get it done finally. Yes, so glad. And Trisha, please let all the people know we're obviously going to have all the links in the show notes so can find you, but where do you love to hang out online? How can they get in touch with you? Share it with the Clever Crew. Sure thing. I'm always trishalee .com, T -R -I -C -I -A -L -E -E .com, trishalee .com. And then everywhere else, I'm always sold by Trisha Lee. All right.

Amazing. Well, thank you so much for joining us today, Trisha. This was so much fun. And yes, we are just auto sending this episode, Candice, to all our clients on repeat. Anytime they're like, shouldn't we be humble? We're like, nope. Please visit the church of Trisha and then come back to us. it it up. Yeah, exactly. Thank you guys. All right. Our pleasure. Thank you so much. Thanks for joining us on Not Nice Clever. Remember to follow Not Nice Clever wherever you listen to audio.

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