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Unmasking Reality TV: Tricia Lee's Journey On Owning Manhattan

Kat Torre and Candice Carcioppolo Episode 246

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She’s back, and she’s bolder than ever! This week, we’re rolling out the red carpet for Tricia Lee, whose life has taken a wild turn since joining the cast of Netflix’s Owning Manhattan. From navigating the pressures of reality TV to leveling up in life and business, Tricia spills it all—no fluff, just real talk.

Ever wondered what it’s actually like to have your every move aired for the world to see? Tricia gets candid about the impact of the public eye, the mindset shifts that keep her grounded, and the routines that help her stay sane while chasing big goals. Plus, we’re busting some major myths about reality TV—because spoiler alert: it’s not all drama and designer handbags.

If you're craving an unfiltered conversation about growth, resilience, and the power of showing up as your authentic self, this episode is for you. Let’s get into it! 🎧✨



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 It's kind of unsafe to put yourself in the public eye and not kind of dive deeper into who you are and what, you know, what drives you, because if you allow the public to tell you who you are, then you're screwed.  I'm like a perfectionist and I'm somebody that wants to be the part, look the part, fill the part, over exceed the part.

And that can be very crippling in a lot of ways. I went into this feeling that. The most important thing for me to do in this process is to grow from it and not just go through it. You know, it's always really, really hard. I think when you work for yourself and you could just work yourself into a home if you wanted to.

I know, I know how to work 17 hours a day. I know how to do that. And the result of that is one very different version of me. I had a really great conversation with Jeff about like my work habits one day. And I mean, he just like took it to the mat with me. He was like. You know, you talked about when you were in beauty, how you were this way and you were that way, and then you do the same thing in real estate.

I mean, at a certain point, you've got to figure out you're the common denominator here.  And I will never forgive him for saying that. I'm gonna cook dinner tonight, but now I'm not cooking dinner because now I'm pissed about it again. So I just, I will never get over that. Conversation 'cause it was like, duh, like duh, women, you know, we pride ourselves on resilience and putting everybody in anybody, just random, anybody first.

You know? And I, we give ourself some type of ribbon for that, for some reason. I don't know what that is. What do you think are some of the misconceptions that people have about being on a reality TV show? Um, but it's this full on production like that, you know, there's hair and makeup people and wardrobe people.

That's how I imagined it. No, it's like our show is actually considered an OccuDoc, which is an occupational documentary. It's like you do what you do and we're following you. Nobody pops out with a brush or a can of hair. Spray. Like if you look crazy, you just going to look crazy. And I said this, I say it all the time.

I say it in interviews and I think it's probably going to piss a couple of people off. But today we're thrilled to welcome back. Trisha Lee, since our last chat, Trisha's journey has taken an exciting turn as she joined the cast of Netflix is owning Manhattan, giving viewers a glimpse into her day to day life as a real estate powerhouse in New York city.

Today. She's here to share the inside scoop on life. After joining the cast of owning Manhattan now in its second season and how she's mastered balancing her thriving real estate career with the demands of filming and everything else that life throws her way. You're going to love this conversation.

It's packed with real talk, inspiration, and tips for thriving in both business and life. So without further ado, let's welcome back to the show. The incredible Trisha Lee.  So today we're so excited because we have on Trisha Lee again, because we have so many things to catch up on since the last time we spoke, Trisha has joined the cast of Owning Manhattan, which is on Netflix, and it was just picked up for a second season.

So we're super excited to talk to you about that. So let's just dive in. How has being part of the cast impacted you personally and professionally?  That's two great questions. Um, definitely professionally. It's been good. You know, I feel like everyone has my resume now, so if you could just hand your resume to every potential employer, that's kind of what the show has done, I think, um, which has just been magical in so many ways. 

Um, you still have to like, you know, walk in and impress with your interview and get the job and back, back it up, but it's really nice that people like, I feel like a lot of people just know who you are, even if they pretend that they don't, they do. Um, so that's been great. And then personally, it has been like really interesting.

Like, I, you can't prepare for this, but I've, I've, I've handled it pretty well. I think there are some moments where I'm like, what is going on right now?  But I think I'll have to grow into getting accustomed to like personally how things are because it's, it is weird when people already know who you are or they saw you do something on TV.

So they think that that they think that they almost know what your response is going to be to certain things because they feel like you're their girlfriend, you know, so it's um, it's for the most part, it's been fun.  Yeah, we, uh, we call that, what was it, Candice? There's a term for it, Tricia. Um, parasocial, right?

Where people build parasocial relationships, meaning that they feel like they know you, like you're their girlfriend. You've never actually met, so on, from their end, they have  feelings, emotions, thoughts about The relationship that they have with you and, and you don't know, you don't even know them. Yeah.

Or you're just not tied to that moment because that was like, you know, six months ago or whatever. Like, well, don't put me aside. Let me tell you something. You need to tell that Jordan March. And I'm like,  I never think about Jordan March. What are you talking about?  Why are you thinking about it?  But I love that people feel so connected to those moments and to the story.

So I get that I am not that type of viewer, but I do get it. You know, I'm not the kind of viewer that's going to watch like a murder mystery and then think that the actor did it and be mad at him if I see him in the street, but I see how it happens because people are so caught on to things that happened during the filming and like we film in real time and like this is like my real life, my real work, whatever it is.

It kind of just ends up in the show.  So, while those are moments, I'm way beyond those moments now, you know, that you have to remind me about them more than anything, because I'm, I'm gone. I'm done.  What is that timeline like? Because I think our Clevver crew would like to know when, how much time is between actually recording and It coming out on Netflix for us.

It wasn't a lot of time, but we filmed for like a year almost, you know, I mean, I've been in this process for two years, definitely filmed for like a year. So it wasn't a lot of time. I felt like we stopped filming, or at least I stopped filming. I can't speak for anyone else. Cause it also is very insular.

Like everyone's storyline is very different. So like, you're so busy living your life. I just can't even, I don't have the bandwidth to think about anybody else. But, um, I felt like I stopped filming in March, you know, when the show came out in June. So.  It's yeah, it's pretty quick. Yeah. Yeah. And I don't know if people shot later in March than I did.

I definitely shot I shot really late, um, you know, but I have a different story. I'm in a different borough like, you know It's just a different tie in for me. Uh, plus I think I'm special  We all know that. Yeah, I feel like that's why I have to film longer I'm like, oh the special people are filming longer than like Trisha.

No one said that I'm like I said it  It is a thing now. Yeah, but it's pretty like, you know, it's pretty close. I would say it's not that big of a window  You know, we have all, um, been in the, the content world for several years now, you know, and Tricia, when we first had you on, you were, you know, building your brand on Instagram and, and, you know, within Brooklyn and beyond Brooklyn.

And I wonder, because I know I always learned something about myself when I watch back tape of me speaking on stage, or even me filming a reel for you watching yourself. You know, in a TV show setting, um, was there anything that stood out to you or that you learned about yourself? Like, you know, watching it from like the viewer's perspective after having lived it yourself. 

So many things, like, you know, one thing I only watched the show once cause I was like, I cannot even like go down that hole, like that rabbit hole of like critiquing yourself. That is so unhealthy. So I watched the show once and, you know, I got up a lot cause I was hosting while we were doing it. So I, a lot of points I missed.

But I did not realize how fidgety I was and then I got so comfortable that I was like on camera like doing this and like Girl, get that hair out of your face and keep talking. I felt like I was just like  I was like, I'm so fidgety, you know, I thought that was weird. Everyone always told me that I speak fast.

And then now I'm like, oh yeah, they're right. I do talk too fast. I'm not changing that. I don't care. Um, but I think like, I don't sound the way I thought I sounded. I don't look the way I thought I looked. You know what I mean? It's like a lot of different things, but. I'm more proud of my perspective on it than like it itself.

Right. Cause I went into this feeling that the most important thing for me to do in this process is to grow from it and not just go through it, you know? And so from my own personal journey, I had objectives that I wanted to hit, and that was, you know, being okay with who you are and making peace with it and not overanalyzing yourself and not allowing others to do that either.

More importantly, and Getting to a space just in my mind and in my heart where I was good with me.  So your opinion did not matter and that was the work that I was putting in while I was shooting So yeah, I was like going to work every day and I was filming every day but I was also deep diving into Tricia the human being and who I am what motivates me and What I care about and why I care about the things I cared about because I felt like it's kind of unsafe to put yourself in the public eye and not kind of dive deeper into who you are and what You know what drives you because if you allow the public to tell you who you are, then you're screwed every which way you look at it, you know, um, and my, I just really wanted to I'm going to go through this and, and I said this, I say it all the time.

I say it in interviews and I think it's probably going to piss a couple people off, but I wanted to go through this process and not care how people took me. That was so important to me. And I felt like this was the test that was being given to me and the opportunity to really Not just say it, but be about it.

I knew that was gonna happen. I was like, there's no way my phone's not gonna ring off. I'm at this call  , sorry, I'm a broker. I don't know what to tell you guy. She is that working a realtor? Tell she is, you know, emergency people'll get through. 'cause that's just how it works. . Mm-hmm  . Um, but yeah, so it was, um.

It was good to come through the process. And, you know, I knew that I was really positively received, which was great. Um, but in my heart of all hearts, I just knew that if I wasn't, I was still good anyways, because I knew I put my heart into it. I knew I worked really hard. I knew I showed up on time for set.

I knew that I did the best I could, even when I wasn't the best I am, you know? And so the things that are important, people don't, don't really see. And that's okay too. So I'm really proud of what we were able to do and I'm super proud of what I was able to do because I'm like a perfectionist and I'm somebody that wants to be the part, lift the part, fill the part, over exceed the part.

And that can be very crippling in a lot of ways. And so if you put that in front of the public, you know, 270 million people.  You could drive yourself mad and I didn't want this process to do that. So I'm really proud that I'm at a space where like people are like, Oh, I loved you on the show. I'm like, great.

And then I'll walk away. I'll be like, but I don't care if you didn't. Yeah.  Because what was honestly truthful and important to me was to truly be myself.  I wanted to be me on camera. And I was like, if I can pull that off, that's as free as I can show up.  You know, and you definitely have reasons to not want to be yourself when there's four cameras in your face and 20 people behind those cameras looking at you and in your mind judging you, they're not judging you, but in your mind they're judging you because you don't know these people and you do start to create caricatures of yourself.

And every time I thought I was doing that, I just pulled myself back and I was like, no, you, if freedom is what is most important to you, then in order to be free in this show, you have to be yourself.  We absolutely want you to be yourself, and we love that. We were just on last week, um, with Taya DeCarlo, Realtor out of Los Angeles, and she was talking about, yeah, she was talking a lot about things that you just said, and she was sharing how personal development and her personal brand, like, those things just go together.

You can't have one without the other, and it sounds like you were really intentional about making sure you were showing up as yourself. Um, can you tell us like some of the  maybe specific wellness practices that you had or mindfulness practices? Is there anything specific that you did that helped you prepare so that you could be yourself?

Um, one thing I did is I had never really gotten a morning routine down. Like I have a wonderful night routine that I'm very, very proud of and it's effortless, but I had never really gotten a morning routine down. It used to make me so frustrated. I'm like, how am I such a morning person, but I can't get this routine down.

And I don't know if that's like my attention span issue or like maybe my house is just too busy, but I just could never get a morning routine down. And during the filming, I finally got to the space where I could get up.  Turn my phone off,  open my journal, take a look at what I want to get done for the day, write my thoughts out, think, breathe, meditate, and pray in the morning.

And I've been trying to do that, you guys, for, I don't even know how long I've been trying to do that. Like, seven, eight years, I would imagine, or maybe longer. And I finally got to a place with it during filming, but I think it's because I needed it now more than ever. Yeah. Cause every day I was kind of thrown into an environment that I had no control over.

And I have built my life in a way that I have control over everything. And so I knew that that was going to drive me mad and I needed to walk into the days just as mentally tough as I possibly could. So super proud of my morning routine. Super proud of my activity routine. I've never been more active. I walk pretty much everywhere.

I definitely was that person that used to always drive everywhere. And I mean, I still do because of work, but I get my steps in like nobody else. Like I am always at it, even if I'm like parking in a. Garage. I'm parking at the back of it. Um, I did Pilates more days than I've ever done. I'm in Pilates four or five days a week.

I mean, four is a very is a dead week. Five to six is a good week. I started hot cold therapy, which was something that I, I thought would be helpful with, um. Just being tough minded, you know, like I think that with us as entrepreneurs, everything starts with your mental state. And so I thought,  what can I do to strengthen my mind?

Like to, to be able to talk myself in and out of things when I need to. So that landed in hot, cold therapy. I love it. It's, it's wonderful. I get a lot of massages. Um, I'm really into massages. I get tons of on a beauty and very superficial level. I get tons of facials. I get a facial every month normally.

And then when I'm filming, I go every two weeks because the skin is 

And then just like getting good sleep, man. Like there's no conversation I can ever have around and not talk about sleep and how it affects your brain health, your mood, especially as women. The worst thing you can do for yourself, even if you're, even if you care about how you look for that reason alone, get your good sleep.

You know, and I'm, I will lecture anybody about sleep any moment of the day. I'll stop a conversation and go lecture you about sleep. But I got my sleep down into a really good space. I've always struggled with my sleep, but I'm really good with that. Um,  and I think just overall, just prioritizing all of that stuff, like that is a part of my day and everything has to kind of fit into that.

And it, whereas before it was always the first thing I pulled out, like if it was something for me, It was the first thing I would delete. I'll get to it later or maybe tomorrow. We'll start again. I can reschedule that. Whereas now I feel like I have the attitude that men do. I'm just like, no, that's my stuff.

I got to get that done. So let's see what we can do with you after this. You know? And I, I, I mean, I live with it, man. I see how they, they move through the world. And I, I think it's good. Some good stuff we can adopt there because now I'm like, I'm sorry. I'm so not available. Like, it's not your business that I'm in Pilates, it's my business that I'm in Pilates, but I need to be in Pilates in order to be decent at noon.

So yeah, I'm not available.  Um, so non negotiable with my wellness practices at this point, like it's just what I have to do. And then of course I have to start my day early in order to keep consistent, but that, that was a healthy change too.  When Kat and I talked to entrepreneurs about this as their coaches, as their brand strategists and how important it is to invest time in themselves.

We get a lot of pushback as you can imagine about how they just don't have the time and You were in the space where you were giving up You're saying no to yourself to say yes to other people And I was just like every person that you talk about. I was just like that. I did not eat healthy I did not sleep.

Well, I did not take care of myself. I always said no to myself first  What was the thing though? What, what, is it just this decision? Did you, how did it change? I felt that I couldn't keep on with those unhealthy practices. So like, obviously a moment like this just forces you to be like, well, who, who do you really want to be? 

Well, then you need to start pretending to be her or acting like you're her now until you become her. So that was part of it in my mind, but I had a really great conversation with Jeff about like, My work habits one day and I mean, he just like took it to the mat with me. He was like, you know, you talked about when you were in beauty, how you were this way and you were that way.

And then. You do the same thing in real estate. I mean, at a certain point, you got to figure out you're the common denominator here.  And I will never forgive him for saying that. I was going to say, cook dinner tonight, but now I'm not cooking dinner. Cause now I'm pissed about it again. He's going to fend for himself tonight.

So I just, I will never get over that conversation. Cause it was like, duh, like duh.  He's like, you know, you're, you're the common denominator here. And he's like a workaholic and proud has no desire to ever change that about himself. Um, and neither do I really, but I wanted to be better to myself. And I don't know, after that, after he said that I was, I just took the reins for, of my own life and my own schedule and, and reminded myself of why I became an entrepreneur.

Um,  and I just, I just took control of that, but I also had to do that with the discipline to lengthen my day. You know, and so I have found that creating that structure in my day is so protective of Tricia  and so loving of Tricia that I'm happy to do it every day. Like, I want to do it every day. And I think you do have to get there.

I just think that  women, you know, we pride ourselves on resilience and putting everybody and anybody just to random anybody first, you know, and we give ourselves some type of ribbon for that for some reason. I don't know what that is. It's kind of like that girl that's like going to a wedding and she helps everyone to get ready.

And so everyone looks gorgeous and then she looks crazy.  It's like, that's, that's the same thing that we're doing. And I, I was just like, no more of that, no more of that. So one little tweak was like, okay, 6 a. m. was not working for me. 5. 15 has given me an extra cut of the day to allow me to squeeze more things in and also be able to take. 

better. So I had to make that adjustment, which means that I'm not the night person that I used to be. You know, I, not that I'm a late night person, but I used to not be as disciplined at night with how I spent my night. Whereas now it's like, shut it down. It has to shut down because it has to start back up again shortly.

And it has to also be a good night of rest. I'm less flexible with the things that protect my peace and my happiness now. And I think I'm more flexible with the things that are required of me. Like, no, I'm not into that. I'm good. You know, or I'll do it, but it's gonna have to be on my terms. But with the things that are really like self loving, I mean, people call it care, but it's really love.

Like, it's really, really love. Like, you have to love yourself in that way and to be protective of yourself in that way. Um, And I'm grateful for the show for that because I needed to make that change and I had been struggling with it and I was just right there. It was just small tweaks I needed to make, but I feel better.

I look better. I sound better. I sleep better. I perform better. I, I, I Think and process and problem solve better  because I'm sleeping better. I'm taking great care of myself. I'm, you know, it's all the basic things. Like we all know what they are. You're not supposed to smoke. You're supposed to drink a lot of water.

You're supposed to get a lot of activity, exercise as much as you can, get your good sleep and put good stuff in your body. It's not that hard. Yeah. But  it's always really, really hard. I think when you work for yourself and you could just work yourself into a hole if you wanted to. I know, I know how to work 17 hours a day.

I know how to do that. Yes. We were all experts at that. Yes. Yes. Once upon a time. Yes. And the result of that is one very different version of me.  Yes. You know?  And you can't bring that version on TV. So I really had no choice. I had to change. It was like push comes to shove this. Yeah. Who, who knew that the reality TV show would be something that would actually.

Be that last push you needed to start paying attention to yourself, even though you were putting. millions of eyeballs on you. It really, it really just made you only look really at yourself and go inward. 100%, you know, and it's like I've never attended church as much, I've never prayed as much, I've never written my thoughts out as much, I've never slept as long, as good,  you know, I've never been as active.

I've never been as more snatched. There's more snatching to do, but damn it, I'm snatched. It's a progress. It's a process. It really, really is. Um, but it's just been, it's really, you know, it's the most random thing in the world, but you know, and I know people have different attitudes about reality TV, but the changes it's made in my life, I welcome them all.

It's been actually really good for me. I think I needed it. I almost needed the pressure, if that makes sense.  Yeah,  what do you think are some of the misconceptions that people have about being on a reality? TV show.  Um, but it's this full on production like that, you know, there's hair and makeup people and wardrobe people like, no, it's like, that's how I imagined it.

It's like, no, it's like, no, I mean, our show. And another thing is that I should take the time to share this is our show is actually considered an ocu doc, which is an occupational documentary.  So like we lazily call it a reality TV show. And I mean, I think that's just makes sense too, but An occupational documentary is something where it's like you do what you do and we're following you.

That's kind of their documenting. They're documenting it. So nobody pops out with a brush or a can of hairspray. Like if you look crazy, you just gonna look crazy. That's how it works.  Do you?  Um,  but it's not that way. It's not that setup. It's not that production. There's, there's Um, you know, it's, it's, it's nothing but unknowns because I have no idea what cat's going to say until it comes out of her mouth.

So you really are getting, you know, natural react, especially for me. I'm always like, I know that she didn't. Okay, fine. Yeah. So it's a lot of that. Um, then what's interesting about it is that you're thrown with these people that you, you know, some of them, you know, some of them you don't know. Some of them you fall in love with once, once you get to know them, some of them you can't stand once you get to know them.

And then now you're still stuck with them. So I understand why the environment creates. The craziness that it does, because it's an interesting, it's an interesting mix up, but it's nothing like that for us. Like,  I'm like putting a house on the show and I'm like, damn it. Now I feel even more pressure to sell the damn house. 

And as if I don't give myself enough pressure. So it's, it's, it's all those things, but I would say that it's far more real and far more like in the moment because  they, the producers are there to kind of keep. And keep a track of what's going on in your life if they're not there to tell you you're there telling them like on a Monday I'm telling them like what's going on in my week and whether or not they want to cover it as their decision But it's not being done for them and they're not telling me to do it So they don't know what my week entails until we talk on a Monday That's how it works, you know, and my schedule could be really whack one week or really amazing and crazy another week So it just depends and they get to know you as well over time  so I would think the biggest thing is that it's not the production that you think it is and You really are being yourself because you don't know what's coming out of the mouth of the other person.

You never ever do. A lot of times you don't even know who you're gonna be in a scene with. You know, you just know you're going to the office to shoot. I don't know who they tell to come. I don't know who's gonna be there, who's not gonna be there. You can have me there with a bunch of people I can't stand.

And now I'm in the office all awkward and funny acting. Because I don't want to be here.  And they've had moments like that where they've cut me completely out because I'm like, you know, I can't stand none of these people.  You know, I'm very vocal about who I like and who I don't like. And so you just don't know what it's going to be until it is.

And by that time it's too late, you know, you got to really roll with the punches on it.  That was one thing that really stood out to me because when the show came out, like people who know me well know that, you know, we have all known each other for a few years and since Candace and I joined, you know, Sirhan in 2021, they're like, so like, is this really them?

Or like, you know, were they acting or like, you know, who is real? Who was fake? I was like, well, you can look at Trisha Lee. And you can look at Jordan hurt and you can look at a few others. I'm like, they are exactly how I have talked with them and have had conversations with them when cameras aren't rolling.

I was like a hundred percent authentic. I felt like I was just watching more of you, you know, it wasn't really like produced at all. So I just, I wanted to acknowledge that because you. Coaching yourself, like throughout the past year of filming to just be yourself. I totally saw it and it really resonated.

Like I was telling Will, I was like, that's exactly, that's her. That's totally her, like her energy, how she walks in, how you address, like all of that. So it was cool to see. I appreciate that. Everyone said that, like you guys, like down, down to my babysitter from when I was five years old was like, yep, that's you.

That's Trisha. I was like, what do you know, lady? I've, I've, I've become a different person. She's like, no, that's just you. Like she knows you. Yeah. My mom, my sister, all my college friends, like, you know, all my girlfriends, they're like, yeah, that's just you. But I felt like. You know, as a woman on television, there's one aspect of it.

And then I'm a black woman on television. That's another aspect of it. And I think about my community whenever I do anything, like whether I'm being asked to or not, I do. And I just like, wanted to be a free black woman on TV. I wanted to fully be myself, whatever myself is. And I wanted that to be enough and I wanted that to be okay.

And I felt like without saying a word, I'd be sending that message. So I was like, I'm going to get on here. I'm going to do my thing only the way I can do it. And the producers may love it. They may not, you know, there's a lot more I could have done to just like really get that camera time as much as I wanted it, but I'm good.

Like I felt that  if I was myself, I felt that I was more dynamic. Then anyone else could be trying to be someone else, you know, so I was just like let's just stick to that and and just being true to who you are and like that's a level of freedom that you're aspiring to have. And I felt very free about it.

And so when it came out, I was totally at peace with it. And, um, I watched it. I wasn't anxious. It wasn't anything like that because I was like, shit, you just got whatever I was going through that day. And, you know, you'll probably get another version of me like this next season because I am always going to be changing and growing.

I hope, I hope, I pray, you know, and so as I learn to resolve challenges better, I'll probably get better at that. As I learn to read a little bit more gently, I guess I'll get better at that. You know, um, there are moments that I was very aggressive with people, you know, or just like clearly not a fond of them.

And, um,  you know, for whatever reason, I think that.  I saw myself on TV was like, yeah, that's how I felt in the moment, but I never felt bad about anything. I thought it was fine. And, you know, I, I don't know that it'll be the same this next season though, because, you know, things change people change. I know I change and I'm good with that as well.

Like, I just want to be. I want to be free enough to be myself, but I would hope that that I always feel that way there. And if I don't, then I won't want to do the show anymore.  Yep.  In our first episode together, you talked a lot about how you like to do random acts of kindness for people. We're wondering if there's any, any kind of standout moment that you could share with us that was maybe a random act of kindness that  you remember. 

During the show or like now? Doesn't have to be during the show, whenever you want. What's the most random?  That you were either on the receiving end or the giving end, either one. So last week I shot with this, um, this basketball player. And, uh,  he, um, he had an opening night game at Madison Square Garden.

And I don't think we asked for tickets, because I wouldn't ask somebody for something free. But somehow we ended up with tickets. Like, really great tickets, and that was really cool. And like, we didn't know about it until the day of. And then someone called from his camp and was like, Oh, you know, you guys have tickets.

All of all of the agents have tickets to the game. So we were like at Madison Square Garden on like opening night last week and every single person in the world was there was so cool. Oh, that was so cool. Um, yeah, I love that. And then like, so since the show comes up came out, like people just send all kinds of random things to me at home and at the office.

It's so embarrassing when they send it to the office. I'm like, do not do that. But at first I was annoyed. I'm like, what is all this random stuff? But then I realized how funny it is to give it away.  So that's been really fun. Like I brought like boxes of stuff to my hairdresser last week. Um, cause I'm like thinking I don't need that clutter, but I'm like, you don't have to keep it.

Just take it and like give it away. So now I love being able to just. You know, run into people. I'm like, here you go. Do you need this? Do you need that? They're like, you just have extra makeup brushes. I'm like, yeah.  It is like my nieces love when I'm like, Hey, yeah, I just have like random, I don't know, fragrances or makeup or skincare.

They love it. So that's been kind of cool. Um, or like the other day I saw something on IG and I was like, Oh, I love that. And so I just like DM them. I was like, Hey, can I get this for my cast members? And they're like, yeah, just send us the sizes. I was like, hell yeah. And I know I could probably do that a lot more, but I'm not a taker.

I'm very much a giver. Like that's what fills me is to. I don't know, give. I like that. That's, that's, I guess I probably get the same joy from giving that people do from taking. So I don't think about that often. I'm sure that someone else on the cast is out there begging for a million bings a day, but I never ask about it.

But then this was like these cute pantyhose that have these cute little sayings on them. I'm like, I want the girls to wear that. So stuff like that, I'll be like, I was like, Hey guys, I got you these different things. So that's been really cool. You know, um, but I think a lot of the good stuff that I do is really through my sorority.

Like we are big, big, big on teenage financial literacy and, um, just in general financial literacy. So that's what I get most excited about. I'm putting together a workshop right now that we're going to do in November. Another money matters, just teaching financial literacy in the community. I think it's just so important.

There's so many people that have so many questions about money and finance. They don't know who to ask and they don't know. What they don't know.  So I love like being able to, just to be in that position to be able to offer that type of help in my own community where it's needed most. I just, I mean that, that fills me in a way that I don't think anything else can.

So those, those are like the little things that kind of breathe life into me.  That's so cool. We would love to, if there's like a link or if there's a way that people can donate to that, we will definitely put it in the show notes and see if we can help. Sure, I'll, I should have a date by the time this airs, so I'll make sure to give it to you guys.

Yeah. That's awesome. We love that. Okay. So we are coming to the end here. Kat, can you do the rapid fire question? Yes. Tricia, do you remember we did rapid fire for our first episode? Love that. Okay. We switched it up a bit. So hopefully there'll be some, um, new surprise questions for you.  Okay. So, uh, What is or what was one of your childhood nicknames? 

Trish the Dish. Trish the Dish. Okay. I think I recall that one from our first episode. Love that. Trish the Dish. think of what else. Is there any new nicknames that came with being on a reality TV show? There you go.  Other than Queen, obviously. Definitely Queen. Everyone's always like, you're just her. You're her.

I'm like, I'm her? I love it. You're her. I'll put that in my like rule status. I'll just like her period.  I saw that. I've seen that like on the DMs. Okay. Yeah. So I guess her would probably be it. I need a new nickname though. Damn it. I really do. Okay. By the time we do another episode, you'll have a new one.

Don't worry. Perfect. Okay. What is your go to lazy dinner when you've just had a day?  Oh, okay. Am I making it or is it, is it coming into the house? Either one.  Shrimp fried rice. Ooh. With egg. That hits all the notes. Yeah. Yeah. Shrimp fried rice with egg. Hell yeah. And you get your protein in with that shrimp, that egg.

So healthy. And all your vegetables. I mean, come on. It's damn near a salad. Oh my gosh. I love that. Okay. Um, are you, given the season, team pumpkin spice or not?  No. As a matter of fact, I have a whole bottle of it in here that came with Instacart and you can have it. I don't like it. No. And I don't not like it in August either.

Let me just add that note. I don't like it. Like no period regardless of what day it is. No. Like I used to like it, but you guys have ruined it for me. Like it's coming out in the summertime. It's just pumpkin spice. Every damn thing. It's too much. And I just can't. No. Like literally we have this, somebody dropped off the creamer instead of the vanilla creamer or whatever.

Jeff's like, what is this? I'm like, throw it in the garbage. He's like, I'm not going to throw it away. I'm like, I'm never touching it. He's like, it's fine. It's fine. Why are you so upset about the creamer?  She's passionate about this. I get so upset. Cause you guys are always trying to bring us to the end of the year too quickly.

Let me have my season. Right. Like enjoy. Yeah. Yeah. There we have Christmas decorations in front of Macy's 34th street. Come on. I saw the red cups. I saw the red cups and it wasn't even Halloween yet. Yeah. In October. I did get upset about that. Christmas decorations. The red cups. Yeah. Give Halloween its day.

Okay. Uh, what was the last thing you bought online?  Girl, an hour ago, several things  we want to know right before this recording. Yes, exactly. No. So, um, the last thing I bought online is Bath and Body Works has this laundry line, you guys.  No, what I tell you there's this thing. I think it's called there's two different suntowel fragrances So it's like a laundry detergent and a fragrance booster.

I Can no longer take baths without my towels Smelling like sun towel. I'm sorry. I will not allow it. So I just bought like they're two for 30 And before I tried two and I just bought four more but it's all they're like popular And i'm not out yet. I just want I just wanted it in case it runs. She just wants to have a stockpile Yeah, yeah, and she doesn't want it to be i'd love it And I love that like lalabo santal 26 like so I have the room fragrance and I have the candle.

My friend put me on to, again, Bath and Body Works has a sun towel body spray that you can also use in your home as air freshener. Oh, wonderful. I use both in my house. You'll never know the difference. Um, but the laundry detergent, they have like an ocean scent that they love and they have a sweater weather or something like that, but it's all their famous fragrances. 

Laundry detergent and I'm just creating a spa like environment in her home where her towels are scented. I love it  And your bedding like if you do your bedding you put a bunch of fragrance booster in there and you wash your sheets  Bake me later.  Done. Yes. Thank you. All right.  Um, all right. I'm going to ask my, um, obsession question first and then Candace, I want you to think about one because I know, I remember last time we asked you about your airport arrival time, Tricia, you're like, as they're calling my name, you don't want, unless you get paid to be in the lounge.

So Candace, maybe you can think of an obsession question, but Tricia, I'll ask you my new one, which is, uh, do you know your astrological sign? And if not, when's your birthday? It's Pisces. My birthday is February 20th. I was born 8 30 in the morning. I think my sun is also Pisces and I, is it your sun and your moon?

Sun, moon, and rising.  My sun is also Pisces. My rising is Aquarius. I don't know, I don't know what my moon is. Okay, very nice. But I was born super early. I'm a Rihanna birthday and I was born super early in the morning, so I'm very, very Aquarius. As a matter of fact, a lot of times I have to read Aquarius notes because I'm You're right on that cusp.

Yeah. I'm just a couple hours into Pisces and everyone's like, you don't know Pisces. I'm like, I really am not. So  yeah, but I'm kind of into it. Like I look at pattern and stuff. Like I'm, I'm kind of a little into, I'm not as into it. I think as I could be, um, because I think it could be an obsession. So I just kind of dip and dabble and I run away.

It's just fun information. Yeah. You pop in, you pop out, you take what you want, you leave the rest. Exactly. Yeah.  Okay. I have to know this. When you go to Pilates, do you have your reformer? Is that Trisha's reformer? That you go to every time. I do not. Because that's a thing, right? I do not, but I like to be on the right side of the room.

And I don't know if it's because I'm right handed or if I'm just being a weirdo. But I get pissed if I have to be on the left side of the room. And for no, no solid, like valid reason. No logical reason. Yeah.  I'm like, what's going on in here? You guys are just letting this place run down.  You were late. 

Ma'am.  Ma'am, sit down. I like to be on the right side. And then lately I've been doing that, um, this thing on the back of your phone. Like, can you see the little section? Oh yeah, where you put it on the mirror. Yeah. So lately I like, I'll be at the end reformer. And then like at some point in the class, I'll record like this one same exercise that I do.

Cause I'm watching my progress with it. It's kind of cool. So I'm watching it. My leg is moving further and further and further back. Cause I've been in Pilates now for like two and a half years. So I got to like, really like.  I can easily get bored at this point if I don't like keep stepping it up and kicking it.

So lately I've been recording my class and just like critiquing my work in the class. Yeah. I love that. That's so cool.  I love Pilates. It's, it's really changed my life. 

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